Many commentors point out that CR's guideline for daily intake is arbitrary and well under the FDA guideline. I think it would be good to take this with a grain of salt and will be interested to see the response from Huel.
There is no good level for lead exposure. It is always bad. If anything, I think the FDA should make their limits more strict. Yet the FDA is slow moving and susceptible to a lot of industry influence that wants no regulation.
I think we can all agree on that, but it still seems like CR's article is a bit reactionary considering it is normal to find some levels of lead in most FDA regulated foodstuffs?
Plant-based products still have non-zero contamination because lead is still allowed in things like avgas, so we keep putting more in the environment. In theory, leaded avgas is finally starting to get phased out but this has been an excruciatingly slow process.
The good news is that if and when we eliminate lead totally from its remaining uses, we won't have to wait too long to see the benefits. IIRC people's blood lead levels started dropping pretty quickly after we phased out leaded gasoline.
How are we going to remove all the existing contamination? Soil lead levels in old residential areas are still high from when leaded gas was in use. To the point where people with chickens or vegetable gardens at home need to be testing for lead.
Are you really trying to suggest that consumer reports, the most trustworthy consumer advocate of all time is setting unreasonable safety standards?
The FDA is known to set acceptable levels too high especially for lead. The scientific consensus is clear, there is no amount of lead that is safe. If you’re regularly consuming products that contain lead you should stop immediately. If this suggestion makes you frustrated, angry or otherwise disturbed, perhaps you’re experiencing symptoms of lead exposure.
As I said in an above comment, nobody with sense is going to claim lead is healthy. I’m just saying CR could just as easily come up with the same findings for other foodstuffs. Obviously change needs to happen but this doesn’t seem like it will do any good.
A lot of discussion in this thread about the findings for Huel (I was concerned because I consume Huel daily):
https://www.reddit.com/r/Huel/comments/1o6j62j/consumer_repo...
Many commentors point out that CR's guideline for daily intake is arbitrary and well under the FDA guideline. I think it would be good to take this with a grain of salt and will be interested to see the response from Huel.
There is no good level for lead exposure. It is always bad. If anything, I think the FDA should make their limits more strict. Yet the FDA is slow moving and susceptible to a lot of industry influence that wants no regulation.
I think we can all agree on that, but it still seems like CR's article is a bit reactionary considering it is normal to find some levels of lead in most FDA regulated foodstuffs?
Looking at Bryan Johnson's videos it seems just about everything is contaminated. I'd speculate we'll need another thousand years for this to change.
Plant-based products still have non-zero contamination because lead is still allowed in things like avgas, so we keep putting more in the environment. In theory, leaded avgas is finally starting to get phased out but this has been an excruciatingly slow process.
The good news is that if and when we eliminate lead totally from its remaining uses, we won't have to wait too long to see the benefits. IIRC people's blood lead levels started dropping pretty quickly after we phased out leaded gasoline.
How are we going to remove all the existing contamination? Soil lead levels in old residential areas are still high from when leaded gas was in use. To the point where people with chickens or vegetable gardens at home need to be testing for lead.
Obvious answer is hydroponics
Are you really trying to suggest that consumer reports, the most trustworthy consumer advocate of all time is setting unreasonable safety standards?
The FDA is known to set acceptable levels too high especially for lead. The scientific consensus is clear, there is no amount of lead that is safe. If you’re regularly consuming products that contain lead you should stop immediately. If this suggestion makes you frustrated, angry or otherwise disturbed, perhaps you’re experiencing symptoms of lead exposure.
As I said in an above comment, nobody with sense is going to claim lead is healthy. I’m just saying CR could just as easily come up with the same findings for other foodstuffs. Obviously change needs to happen but this doesn’t seem like it will do any good.
> The lead levels in plant-based products were, on average, nine times the amount found in those made with dairy proteins like whey
For this, and other reasons, whey will continue to be my protein supplement of choice.
I’ve heard that unflavored tend to have less contaminants than flavored. I don’t know if anyone can confirm.
Lead tastes sweet, it’s quite pleasant, that’s why it was used in wine.
Government should make them put lead on the RDA label as a negative RDA
so at least they'll be forced to test for it in each batch
(I'm sure RFKjr will get right on that)
Some big brand names in there, "Muscle Milk" is owned by Pepsi
ps. "Mass Gainer" was a dumb thing to test but I guess control, it's just maltodextrin (a starch-like sugar)