> France isn't a safe country for open source privacy projects. They expect backdoors in encryption and for device access too. Secure devices and services are not going to be allowed.
If this is true, it's a bit concerning for Ledger users. One state-mandated firmware update away from losing all your crypto?
When all the remaining freedom fighters will flee out of all the oppressive states into the last remaining citadel of human rights, which may well turn out to be some drifting icefield in Arctic, and the oppression finally catches them up there, is there any plan B for the humankind?
Capitalism didn't corrupt privacy. Literally every major messaging and smartphone maker integrated e2e encryption because the user wants it. It is government regulations, that wants to kill privacy. Which is not free markets or capitalism, this is more socialism.
"France isn't a safe country for open source privacy projects. They expect backdoors in encryption and for device access too. Secure devices and services are not going to be allowed. We don't feel safe using OVH for even a static website with servers in Canada/US via their Canada/US subsidiaries."
Would surprise me if they weren't moving out of France entirely.
” In Canada and the US, refusing to provide a PIN/password is protected as part of the right to avoid incriminating yourself. In France, they've criminalized this part of the right to remain silent.”
In theory. In practice there's a case where a defendant is being held in contempt (jailed) for years now, for refusing to provide her encryption passwords. At that point both the 5th and the idea of contempt are busted.
> Prosecutors were able to gain access to the laptop, and police say forensic analysis showed Rawls downloading child pornography and saving it to the external hard drives.
> France isn't a safe country for open source privacy projects. They expect backdoors in encryption and for device access too. Secure devices and services are not going to be allowed.
If this is true, it's a bit concerning for Ledger users. One state-mandated firmware update away from losing all your crypto?
How would the government mandate a backdoor of such a hardware/software system without attracting eyeballs?
The government just doesn't care.
Previous discussion:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46037573
Related:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45999024
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46035977
When all the remaining freedom fighters will flee out of all the oppressive states into the last remaining citadel of human rights, which may well turn out to be some drifting icefield in Arctic, and the oppression finally catches them up there, is there any plan B for the humankind?
The One place that has not been corrupted by Capitalism… space!
I can hear Tim Curry's delivery of that in my head. So good.
Looks like Musk and Bezos are going to beat you to it.
Capitalism didn't corrupt privacy. Literally every major messaging and smartphone maker integrated e2e encryption because the user wants it. It is government regulations, that wants to kill privacy. Which is not free markets or capitalism, this is more socialism.
Capitalism didn't corrupt privacy.
Meta, Microsoft, and Google's extensive user tracking beg to differ.
Satellites?
Can be jammed and/or destroyed.
Easily blackmailed by a lazer beam..
If I read it correctly, they’re not physically “moving” out of France. They are merely switching servers away from OVH.
"France isn't a safe country for open source privacy projects. They expect backdoors in encryption and for device access too. Secure devices and services are not going to be allowed. We don't feel safe using OVH for even a static website with servers in Canada/US via their Canada/US subsidiaries."
Would surprise me if they weren't moving out of France entirely.
seems as physical as anything, this includes OVH servers in france
which is one of several server locations they operate on, including Germany and Switzerland
... to Canada.
Out of the frying pan, into the fire?
” In Canada and the US, refusing to provide a PIN/password is protected as part of the right to avoid incriminating yourself. In France, they've criminalized this part of the right to remain silent.”
> refusing to provide a PIN/password is protected
In theory. In practice there's a case where a defendant is being held in contempt (jailed) for years now, for refusing to provide her encryption passwords. At that point both the 5th and the idea of contempt are busted.
> In practice there's a case where a defendant is being held in contempt (jailed) for years now, for refusing to provide her encryption passwords.
Link to story?
The only one I know of was this
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13629728
And he was freed after about 4 years.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/02/man-who-refused-...
> Prosecutors were able to gain access to the laptop, and police say forensic analysis showed Rawls downloading child pornography and saving it to the external hard drives.
Does it mean they do not respect democratic values in France?
If by "democratic values" you mean US and Canadian law, they don't.
Could you say a few words on what you think democracy is?
Depends, did the people vote for it?